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Dog walkers call for action

9:18am Sunday 4th May 2008

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DOG WALKERS in Acton are calling on council officers to impose tough measures on owners who let dangerous breeds run off their leads.

Dogs have killed trees in Springfield Garden by stripping the bark off by them during behaviour known as ringing.

Many owners are also intimidated by Staffordshire Bull Terriers allowed to run off their leads.

In one case a dog terrorised children as they played in a playground in the popular park.

Now Ealing Council has promised to take action against owners who allow their pets to run amok.

Dog owner Nicky Howard, 61, who uses the park regularly, said: "There have been a number of incidents of dogs ringing trees, which kills them, and I have even seen dogs being allowed to run around in the kiddies' play area.

"I have been after the council to do something about this for a while, and I have even called in local police officers to do something about it.

"These dogs have to be kept on their leads because they can be dangerous and could seriously harm other dogs, or even people, wanting to use the park.

"It's completely irresponsible to allow these kind of dogs to be off their leads."

Council officers have promised action to try and stop the problem.

Verity Adams, a spokesman for the council, said: "Park staff have been working with Acton Central Safer Neighbourhood Team to ensure dog owners behave responsibly.

"Police Community Support Officers have spoken with the owners of the Staffordshire Bulls about keeping their dogs on a lead and muzzled.

"Extra signs have now been installed in the park prohibiting dogs from entering the playground area."


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Dog Walker, Chiswick says...
1:52am Mon 5 May 08

Plain and simple:
ALL DOGS irregardless of breed should be on leads.

Nicola Howard, Acton says...
4:30pm Mon 5 May 08

On 4 May a King Charles was subject to attack by a white staffy in Springfield Gdns. The council and police should clamp down on the STATUS SYMBOL dogs by not allowing them into local parks. If a person has the mentality less tan a grain of rice, they should not be allowed by law to own a potentially dangerous dog. The council should enforce the doctoring of specific dog breeds by allocating funds and vet services to perform the surgery.
Lets now hope that the council and police will enforce the dangerous dogs act and, also make suitable amendments to the act.

em, uk says...
11:54pm Mon 5 May 08

Nicola Howard wrote:
On 4 May a King Charles was subject to attack by a white staffy in Springfield Gdns. The council and police should clamp down on the STATUS SYMBOL dogs by not allowing them into local parks. If a person has the mentality less tan a grain of rice, they should not be allowed by law to own a potentially dangerous dog. The council should enforce the doctoring of specific dog breeds by allocating funds and vet services to perform the surgery. Lets now hope that the council and police will enforce the dangerous dogs act and, also make suitable amendments to the act.
I dont feel to great about staffies, there prone to cataracts, hc,phpv, hip displacia, gass problems, and ear infection, and there ears a hard to read.

i read an article on greyhounds, and this author practicly called for the banning of greyhounds, as they were breed to hunt, and simply see dogs and other animals as prey and she had to unseccesfully treat a dog that was ripped apart by greyhounds. yes i know its rediculus, but is the suggestion by these people any better?
But lets be serious, the vast majority of staffies ive met have been extreamly friendly to me, i know of a staffieXpit, and he lets me sleep on him. and even lap dogs can, and have killed people.

staffies were breed to fight other DOGS, they wer NEVER bred to attack humans. in fact apbt, irish staffies, bull terriers,staffies, etc are one of the very few breed that had agression towards humans bred OUT of them. when the where not fighting they perfromed as family pets, and before/after and even during the pain and agony and stress during a dog fight the owner and the judge needed to extensivly handle the dog, and if it showed any agression toawrds humans it was deemed unsafe for fighting and destroyed on the spot. in westminister in the 1800's dog fighters were so confident about not getting biten that they rolled there sleves up exposing their arm before handling the dogs who were fighting.
In fact they are probably the worst guarding breeds becuase they lets practicly anyone in for a cuddle, dog fighters actualy employ breeds such as gsd's and rotties to guard them , as they are so easy to steal, they walk away with anyone (75% of all stolen dogs are staffies). staffies and chesas are the only two breeds out of the 190+ reconised by the gb kennel club, that has a standered that actually states their good with children.

and there is NO correlation between dog-dog agression, and dog-human agression, when tiggy sees dogs he snaps and growls and atempts to lunge at them, yet he luvs people and allows strangers to come up to him and stroke him
staffies may have their problems, but i cant thing of a single breed that doesnt.

Genetics (breed) plays only a part in the temperament of an individual dog and scientific studies from around the world show that environment probably has a far greater effect. A large percentage of dog biting incidents are due to the irresponsible actions of owners, who have either not taken the time and trouble to train their dog correctly, or have indeed trained them to behave aggressively. Consequently any legislation based on genetics that ignores the influence of the dog’s keeper on its behaviour is likely to be ineffective.
(80% of dog attacks are from intact males, 90% of dog attacks are from the familys dog or a dog familiar to the person, a chained dog is 5X more likley to bite, and the majority of attacks on children take place when the child and dog are not suppervised together)

and what proof do you actualy have that the attacking dog was a staffie, ive seen people mistake jack russels for staffies.

and dogs dont simply turn round one day and say "you know what i feel like mauling someone today" theyed have to be human to do that. the amount of times ive seen people completly ignore a dogs body language then when the dog bites says it turned on me is amazing.

and if the law is enforced the ones that use them as wepons, will simply ignor the law, and say its not a staffie its a xyz breed, and then those with an xyz breed will be accused of having an unmuzzeled staffie and have their dog pts. or the ones you get dogs to be hard, will simply start victimising another breed.( in the early 20th century bloodhounds were the hard, killer dog of choice, notice how they along with gsd, dobies, etc have been moved out of hard killer fashion.

bsl has been proven time and time again to be ineffective, and i find it redicilicalicus that a well breed trained socialised staffy, would be made to wear a muzzle and be ekpt leashed, when the dog that almost killed me, becuase its owner couldnt controll it properly would be able to roam around at its will.

and i bet the petetion is written by dog owners who dont bother to pick up after their dog, or train, socialise it, and get it off byb, and let their dog practicly run wild. becuase they have "a magicall happy breed that never ever bites people"



Fight against Crime, Ealing common says...
10:44pm Tue 6 May 08

Nicola,

The owners of these breeds have a very low IQ.

'Mean dog equals mean profile'.

Just like guns and knives these dogs are yet another symbol of mindless agression and ignorance.

emm, uk says...
11:25pm Tue 6 May 08

Fight against Crime wrote:
Nicola, The owners of these breeds have a very low IQ. 'Mean dog equals mean profile'. Just like guns and knives these dogs are yet another symbol of mindless agression and ignorance.
steve and terri irwin owned a staffie, and do they have low IQ?

and what breeds exaclty are we talking about?


emm, uk says...
1:17am Thu 22 May 08

these dogs are not mean, some are made mean by a FEW owners who are mean and shouldnt have ANY dog.

and your telling me that people with low iq are all mean, useless and less worthy than you, just showed how ignorant you are.

People who support bsl do NOT care about dog attacks otherwise they would not be pushing for dog laws that do NOT work
All this is going to do is make the people that own dogs as dick extensions find a new breed, and the ones that fight dogs will just ignore it anyway. So this really only affects responsible dog owners.

All dogs need trained, not just large dogs. I've personally been bitten by dogs several times, and they were all little kick dogs. At the same time, I know literally dozens of people that own the 'dangerous breeds' and have never had any problems whatsoever.

But no, lets ban a bunch of different types of dogs. That'll fix the problem.


Ann, Cambs says...
3:15pm Fri 30 May 08

Nicola Howard wrote:
On 4 May a King Charles was subject to attack by a white staffy in Springfield Gdns. The council and police should clamp down on the STATUS SYMBOL dogs by not allowing them into local parks. If a person has the mentality less tan a grain of rice, they should not be allowed by law to own a potentially dangerous dog. The council should enforce the doctoring of specific dog breeds by allocating funds and vet services to perform the surgery.
Lets now hope that the council and police will enforce the dangerous dogs act and, also make suitable amendments to the act.
"If a person has the mentality less tan a grain of rice, they should not be allowed by law to own a potentially dangerous dog."

Quoting your post above,how do you measure the mentality of a person??Is it by their spelling???
POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS DOGS
I have been ambushed by many off-lead Border Collies and Labs who growl at myself and my Staffords,who incidently are always on lead and well behaved,where i walk will these be classsed as Dangerous??

"The council should enforce the doctoring of specific dog breeds by allocating funds and vet services to perform the surgery."

What about the Single parents on the dole breeding constantly as they dont know any different,maybe the doctoring of this breed will help with the spread of hatred and ignorance, as with all the "human rights" cr@p kids are left to run riot and there is nothing being done.
You can put a dog to sleep if it attacks a human WHAT ABOUT ALL THE MURDERERS, RAPISTS AND PEADOPHILLES WHERE IS THE VICTIMS RIGHTS.

Something needs to be done to EDUCATE the new generation before it is too late.

How about making a start in YOUR community BEFORE you go spouting off,you never know you may just make a difference.
Or you can ca
rry on with your head in the sand and leave it to someone else,just come back for a moan.

smith, hants says...
6:17pm Mon 2 Jun 08

i own a staff and they are a gentle breed , i used to own a standard pooodle and he was mor likely to bite you than a staff, i have been bitten badley by a labrador running free in the park, just because i walked past where he was sitting!!!!!
also my friends little boy got bitten by a dalmation a couple of weeks ago and has lost the feeling in that arm, he is waitng for a op... and yes the dog meant it as was shaking him whilst sinking his teeth in.
so please dont just pick on certain breeds they all can turn and bite!!!!!!

sue, bray, eire says...
12:27pm Tue 3 Jun 08

im sick and tired of having to defend my dogs.my dogs would lick you to death literally they aim to please their masters and if treated like one of the family there will be no problems i know that there are people out there who get a staffy for their image, but this is not the case for everyone ive had jack russells and terriers all my life and ive had to be on my guard with them but i can honestly say i have never once felt intimidated or afraid of my staffys if i had the room and the money i would get more staffys my little one loves them they sleep on the end of her bed and as a mother do you honestly think i would put my child at risk she will always be my number one priority so maybe if you investigate the breed instead of tarring them all with the one brush and maybe you should be more afraid of the little fanny licker dogs you see out in the park without a lead

bear, bray, eire says...
12:29pm Tue 3 Jun 08

im sick and tired of having to defend my dogs.my dogs would lick you to death literally they aim to please their masters and if treated like one of the family there will be no problems i know that there are people out there who get a staffy for their image, but this is not the case for everyone ive had jack russells and terriers all my life and ive had to be on my guard with them but i can honestly say i have never once felt intimidated or afraid of my staffys if i had the room and the money i would get more staffys my little one loves them they sleep on the end of her bed and as a mother do you honestly think i would put my child at risk she will always be my number one priority so maybe if you investigate the breed instead of tarring them all with the one brush and maybe you should be more afraid of the little fanny licker dogs you see out in the park without a lead

emm, uk says...
7:39pm Thu 5 Jun 08

bear wrote:
im sick and tired of having to defend my dogs.my dogs would lick you to death literally they aim to please their masters and if treated like one of the family there will be no problems i know that there are people out there who get a staffy for their image, but this is not the case for everyone ive had jack russells and terriers all my life and ive had to be on my guard with them but i can honestly say i have never once felt intimidated or afraid of my staffys if i had the room and the money i would get more staffys my little one loves them they sleep on the end of her bed and as a mother do you honestly think i would put my child at risk she will always be my number one priority so maybe if you investigate the breed instead of tarring them all with the one brush and maybe you should be more afraid of the little fanny licker dogs you see out in the park without a lead
your dog sounds luvly, but remember NO dog of any BREED should be left unsupervised by humans, not even if its a lap dog (a child was killed by the familys slighly obese pomerianian when her career left her unsupervised to get a quick drink). Children see the dog as a teddy, and may inadvertanly be too rough, tease or pester it too much, and children act like prey, and their behaviour may excite a dog, a child was attacked by the familys golden retreiver when they were left unsupervised, the dog was put down and during an autopsy it was reavels the dog had a pencil rammed down its ears.

sue,, bray, eire says...
9:53am Fri 6 Jun 08

thanks for the comment emm, my little one is 8 and yes as you said no dog should be left with a child unsupervised the point i was trying to make (and probably didnt do a very good job of) was to tell people that if you bring them into your home and into your family and give them the respect that they deserve they in turn will respect you. i would never leave them on her bed what i wanted to show was that staffys too have a loving side like all dogs i love my dogs sooo much and it really gets to me when people stigmatise them

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